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Postby clarence2society » Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:29 pm

ok i knwo i have posted before but i am so tired of spending all this money to go out and get fish and coming home empty...

we usually go out of hilsboro inlet and itried to find the hydro wreck last time out which i think i did.. but it was night time and hard to see boca inlet and my measurement of miles is not so good while im out there not sure how ican tell how far out i am....

any tips in my pm for where to fish wrecks and how to go about it..... and i know i asked about trolling but thus far i have yet to catch anything at all trolling, got some new lures though i wanna try this week weather permitting....

basically i need tips for targeting , grouper, snapper, kings, wahoo, dolphin, etc etc.. i want edibles especially some king steaks!!!

i have no idea where to go and my handheld gps is garbage it sucks horribly... trying to find a new one.... so let the advice begin...by the way if anyone ever wants to go out on a thurs or friday i am always ready to go:) my boat is pretty good on gas too for a 305
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby gdm phil » Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:36 pm

clarence2society wrote:ok i knwo i have posted before but i am so tired of spending all this money to go out and get fish and coming home empty...

we usually go out of hilsboro inlet and itried to find the hydro wreck last time out which i think i did.. but it was night time and hard to see boca inlet and my measurement of miles is not so good while im out there not sure how ican tell how far out i am....

any tips in my pm for where to fish wrecks and how to go about it..... and i know i asked about trolling but thus far i have yet to catch anything at all trolling, got some new lures though i wanna try this week weather permitting....

basically i need tips for targeting , grouper, snapper, kings, wahoo, dolphin, etc etc.. i want edibles especially some king steaks!!!

i have no idea where to go and my handheld gps is garbage it sucks horribly... trying to find a new one.... so let the advice begin...by the way if anyone ever wants to go out on a thurs or friday i am always ready to go:) my boat is pretty good on gas too for a 305

download the navionic app. I personally use it when I go out and usually fill the box. I guess the best advice I can personally give you is basic basic basic. 30-50# leader decent length and a tripple hook rig.


ive done it myself and over think things when basic fishing works better
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby clarence2society » Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:49 pm

just searched navionics there are like 10 aps ranging from 9.99 to 50 :P
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby diggin4grouper » Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:23 pm

clarence

if your in a boat the best thing you can do is ditch the hand held and get you a gps/sounder like a Garmin 441 or something similar a hand held or the phone apps will get you close and then you have to use the sounder to find the wreck or bottom relief , with are 441 we can put the number in and go to a spot and then start searching the bottom for the wreck or item on bottom that we are looking for

just having the gps isnt going to help you get on the wreck , most only give you numbers to a gen area of where it is and then you have to look for it , you could be 5,10,15 feet from it and never find it
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby englishadam » Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:41 pm

Hey man, the boat is nearly in the water, soon as It is I'll take you to a couple of my snapper spots. Another week or two.
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby clarence2society » Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:51 pm

ADAM awesome :) my boy jaso nand i are going out tonight.....and until morning i think...
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby englishadam » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:16 pm

clarence2society wrote:ADAM awesome :) my boy jaso nand i are going out tonight.....and until morning i think...


Head out of Hillsborough and go south once you get to the steeple stop around there in about 40 - 50ft water if the current is too strong go in shallower great for yellow tails.
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby clarence2society » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:34 pm

not sure where that is.. pm
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby lkatze2 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:16 pm

depending on your cash flow, i would recommend hiring a professional guide to go out on your boat. It will be well worth the cost and the next time you go, you can use the same spots and techniques that he shows you. The first time I went to Bimini on my boat all i caught was barracuda, so the next time i went i hired a guide to go on my boat. After that i would clean up on snappers, groupers and all the other usual suspects. Most guides will go on your boat for less than they charge to go on the guides boat. also, as other people said, you will need a good gps and bottom finder to "exactly" find the wreck, and once you find it, drop a buoy marker on it to mark it. this will help you line up your boat with the wreck
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby cantseeme47 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:04 pm

Very very simple get a decent gps
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby Poseidon10/31 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:30 pm

I use Navionics on my iPhone when I go out on the yak. Based on what I read with the fish finder, the wreck locations off Pompano are spot on. A good bet for any Pelagic fish is to troll the reef edge, where it drops from 60' or so down to 100+'. That 100-120' zone is a good starting point.
Next, look for any weed lines, color changes or current rips. Those are good areas. If you find all 3 or 4 in the same area, FISH THERE.
You can troll spoons on planers, X-Raps, ballyhoo etc zigzagging down the coast in these areas.
I don't really bottom fish cause it's too hard to anchor a yak, and chumming might bring unwanted guests, but I still get grouper and snapper when I try. Anchor up current of the wreck and chum. Drop down cut baits so the fish get used to eating and get fired up. Live pinfish or ballyhoo will get you grouper and muttons. Vertical jigs work great and you can drift and get everything from tuna, AJs, grouper , mutts, and I've even caught a few tilefish which are awesome eating.
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby tears143 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:28 pm

It took me 3 trips to be able to land fish... and my cousin 6 trips...

Go find yourself a good GPS. That's the first thing and learn how to use it. Go buy one of those hotspot maps with the cords... use those for now until you can find your own spots....

Once you get to the area, drift your boat and drop your bait(try to drift around 1miles per hr to cover ground and not too fast). I would start with squid bait and bounce it off the bottom. Once you catch a good fish, then mark the place and anchor up. Start catching fish! The farther out you get, the more likely you'll find fish as people don't want to go out that far to hunt for fish.

Also those small fish that you are catching off the bottom some can be use as bait for grouper!
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby gruntking » Thu Dec 05, 2013 5:58 pm

tears143 wrote:It took me 3 trips to be able to land fish... and my cousin 6 trips...

Go find yourself a good GPS. That's the first thing and learn how to use it. Go buy one of those hotspot maps with the cords... use those for now until you can find your own spots....Once you get to the area, drift your boat and drop your bait(try to drift around 1miles per hr to cover ground and not too fast). I would start with squid bait and bounce it off the bottom. Once you catch a good fish, then mark the place and anchor up. Start catching fish! The farther out you get, the more likely you'll find fish as people don't want to go out that far to hunt for fish.

Also those small fish that you are catching off the bottom some can be use as bait for grouper!



exactly what he said

i only use my depthfinder

gps is to mark once ive found fish other then that its all luck n skill
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby clarence2society » Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:32 pm

went on Sweet Emily out of pompano today with my friend Mike it was an early morning we are still drinking last minute thing...lol... he got a cobe that was "short" but they didnt even measure it which i didnt like...i mean come on measure afish like that at least for bragging rights:( i got one yellow tail, and mike hit a couple bonita.. i had another good hit but the leader was gone form the swivel somehow:( when mike got the cobe there were some big followers but someone else wrapped me up so bad that i could not even try to throw anythign to get one:( damn it! it was a good trip though for last second lets GO!!!

here is the funny thign we took my baot out for 3 hours wed before the radio show at 9 and check this out right where they had us anchored today was where i was fishing last night.. i mean a bit further out but we tried diff depths in the same zone... so i was on fish when i was out at night just drifting wasnt working well i guess. but i had the right area for sure:) at least one of the good zones. i wanted to take mine out tonight but it was kinda rough otu there today and my boat is big enough but kinda light.. nto up for bouncing round in 5 footers:P
also learned a lil not much.
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby tears143 » Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:46 am

Like someone said... even if you are at the same zone but 15 feet off the mark, you won't be getting any bites. This is especially true for reefs and ledges. Fish move around a lot as well.

I think you are getting the idea just a few more trips and you should hone into it.
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby clarence2society » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:24 am

sucks though i cant anchor there:(
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby clarence2society » Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:06 pm

any other suggestions for gps sounder?? under 200? im reading botu the 441 and ppl say it blurs out and costs another hundred for maps and gotta get sd cards etc... blah blah blah... and humminbirds suck horribly
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Postby diggin4grouper » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:17 am

clarence2society wrote:any other suggestions for gps sounder?? under 200? im reading botu the 441 and ppl say it blurs out and costs another hundred for maps and gotta get sd cards etc... blah blah blah... and humminbirds suck horribly


it dont blur out , just need to read the manual and figure out how to work it , people that have been getting the blur have had the gain for the transducer on full trying to find fish and you cant do that , we have to adjust it for the water we are fishing if its clear water you can turn the gain down some and if its muddy you can turn it up a bit but to set it on full and try and find fish will blur it out to where the screen is just a red blob as far as the garmin g2 visison card , send me a 2 gig sd card and ill make you a copy i have a few maps

Garmin BlueChart G2Vision - VUS007R - Norfolk - Charleston
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Garmin G2 Vision VUS009L - jaxsonville - key west
Garmin G2 Vision VUS011R - SOUTHWEST FL
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby diggin4grouper » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:22 am

heres the diffrence with out the sd card and one with the sd card
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby clarence2society » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:38 am

wow dude!!!
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby clarence2society » Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:42 pm

been tryign to find a garmin with good transducer all day online... for a good price no luck thus far
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby gruntking » Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:48 pm

i have the lowrance elite 5hdi couldnt be happyer
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby clarence2society » Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:51 pm

ya knwo what bro i was looking at the elite 5 sdi... or whatever and it looks pretty bad freakin ass and price range is around the same... but that doesnt have gps on it its just depth and fish right?
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby tears143 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:26 pm

Oh another thing is.. if you are catch sharks left and right.. time to switch spot lol. You're not on top of a reef or where there's fish..
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby swordfish » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:42 pm

On that same token Tears, when out on the flats (not sure if you will every fish them) when you see sharks that is the BEST spot to fish for reds etc, for whatever reason it never fails, there will be fish there when you start seeing a bunch of little blacktips etc. I am guessing that means that there is a lot of food there. Just a thought.

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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby tears143 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:36 pm

swordfish wrote:On that same token Tears, when out on the flats (not sure if you will every fish them) when you see sharks that is the BEST spot to fish for reds etc, for whatever reason it never fails, there will be fish there when you start seeing a bunch of little blacktips etc. I am guessing that means that there is a lot of food there. Just a thought.

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Oh, everytime when I drop on a spot and get hit by sharks after sharks... that will be the only fish I catch offshore. That's my experience. hhhhmmm Maybe next time I'll try the spot again.
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby gruntking » Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:04 pm

clarence2society wrote:ya knwo what bro i was looking at the elite 5 sdi... or whatever and it looks pretty bad freakin ass and price range is around the same... but that doesnt have gps on it its just depth and fish right?



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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby clarence2society » Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:46 pm

whats teh difference between the dsi and hdi??? i like the lowrance
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Re: tips for the boat tired of getting skunked

Postby clarence2society » Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:46 pm

whats teh difference between the dsi and hdi??? i like the lowrance
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