lures for largemouths ?

[snakehead terror]

no offence local but why don't you go make some easy money then? Do you hate it so bad that you wont take some cash for it? just curious

No offense taken. I'm 37 years old and I fish 30-50hrs a week. I fish when I want, for as long as I can, pretty much every day. I've got it pretty good, and I definately don't need the money bad enough to participate in something I don't believe in. Not to mention they don't allow fly rods in IFA/bass tourneys, the 7'11" thing is a myth, it has to be spinning or conventional. If I did any kind of tournament fishing, it would be with the intention of humiliating everyone involved, not because I needed the money.

alright good enough for me

[Local66]

Seriously Jetty, you should hit Kars with me one morning before the weather heats up and the water turns to crap. Sight casting to big trout in skinny water is about as cool as it gets. I'll even let you fish bait (but you'll have to bring your own, and if you spill it in the Yukon I'm kicking your arse).

[Local66]

They say that good deeds get paid back.......yea right

I hate to break it to you, but I'm living proof that there's no such thing as karma.

[Bluefish in ny]

Good stuff!!! Love fishing debates, the best kind. As for sight fishing reds/trout in skinny water, obsolutelly, without a doubt, my favorite type of fishing. In fact, I would rather pursue that than any type of fishing out there. Local, I have a job working out of my home. Allows me lots of freedom, in fact, I just ran out for coffee and made a few casts at a culver pumping water from the rain..... Like you, I fish pretty much daily.... And I am definately a "lure chucker" as opposed to a pier - bait - surfcast - fisherman... I like casting and working for fish with light tackle... Don't know if you have ever been to So Florida, Broward / Palm Beach county... Here, we don't have access to the prestine grass flats, in teh salt, our inshore consists of piers, surf, or ICW seawalls and docks, the closest flat is 40 minutes North, and its called Munyon Island, and it sucks. With that said, bass fishing is closest to being able to stand on a bank alone, and toss lures at fish that are considered "game" - as in chase prey. Trust me on this!!! My fishing buddy of 5+ years lived next door to me in Broward County, same type of fisherman I am, so together we "mastered" the bass fishery here, figuring out what works when and where... As it was available, and of course hit spillways when they were open for snook, and of course hit the summer beach snook bite And if u ask around on the "other" forum, were pretty successful, point being... He moved to Melbourne 4 years ago, since then, he has bass fished a handful of times, all down here visiting friends..... Since, he has purchased a nice flats boat, and sight fishes 3 days a week......Much easier to drive 5, get out and wade a flat there for an hour or two... Not so easy here, so to "knock" what is available? At least I am out enjoying my passion

[Local66]

I'll be the first to admit there's alot of different kinds of fishing out there that are completely beyond my understanding. I'm just as picky about how I catch my fish as I am about what I catch, I have to keep it fun. To me there's nothing more exciting than seeing a trophy sized fish of any species charge a fly, only to watch it turn and refuse it at the last second. It lets you know you're not only doing something right, but you still have more to learn. Even when fishing areas that get alot of pressure, I just don't get that kind of a challenge from LMB's. If that's what you've got, there are always ways to keep it interesting. I just live too close to the salt to think about it that much.

[Bluefish in ny]

Exactly... U live too close to the salt to think about stinkin' LMB's too much!!! Now, take my friend Greg that had to move to TN because of work, not by choice, all he has is smallies and largemouth, so I guess he is a retard because he is "involved" with largemouth fishing.

You see, me... I give props to all anglers - from guys who target nothing but crappie in Lake O, to guys pulling lures for wahoo... Cause the guy pulling lures for wahoo, can learn a thing or two from the guy frying crappie at night for dinner.. and vs versus. And if they start a "Crappie Tourny Trail"... My props would be given to those guys as well - as they are passionate about what I am passionate about... A fish tugging at the end of my line.

Know what I find amusing... Notice how 20 years ago there were like 2 or 3 types of artificials in our inshore tackle boxes, now every day you find more and more "bass" lures in "inshore" boxes... And even though some don't respect the tourny trails... I bet you the best "red fisherman" were at one point or another excellent bass fisherman.

[Bluefish in ny]

P.S... And I often ask Greg - "what's the new hottest bass lure"... Cause I know within a year or so, it will marketed by Bomber as an inshore slayer... i.e. spinnerbaits, cranbaits, etc.

[snakehead terror]

Exactly... U live too close to the salt to think about stinkin' LMB's too much!!! Now, take my friend Greg that had to move to TN because of work, not by choice, all he has is smallies and largemouth, so I guess he is a retard because he is "involved" with largemouth fishing.

You see, me... I give props to all anglers - from guys who target nothing but crappie in Lake O, to guys pulling lures for wahoo... Cause the guy pulling lures for wahoo, can learn a thing or two from the guy frying crappie at night for dinner.. and vs versus. And if they start a "Crappie Tourny Trail"... My props would be given to those guys as well - as they are passionate about what I am passionate about... A fish tugging at the end of my line.

Know what I find amusing... Notice how 20 years ago there were like 2 or 3 types of artificials in our inshore tackle boxes, now every day you find more and more "bass" lures in "inshore" boxes... And even though some don't respect the tourny trails... I bet you the best "red fisherman" were at one point or another excellent bass fisherman.

couldn't have said it any better. I dont have my licence yet so freshwater fishing is pretty much all I can do during the week. I am on a mission to catch one of the pacus I see every couple weeks, Ive only got a small one to the bank a few years ago and got broken off by a 40+ pounder. keeps things interesting

[Bluefish in ny]

More .02, if anything, the guys "I don't respect" are the ones that snub their noses at a "certain type" of fishing. I love it all, I love offshore, just can't do it because I get seasick on a boat at the dock (((and I spent 8.0 years in the Navy, go figure))). The guys I do respect are the ones that no matter where they go - they throw! Im moving to North Carolina.. Yes guys, I am outta here!!! Moving just outside of Raleigh, NC.. 2.0 hours to a fantastic redfish fishery, with many other species to boot... I will have a huge lake - Jordan - just to my West... It holds stripers and hybrids, u can bet your sweet a$$ that I will be out there 5 days a week, to fill in the void of saltwater fishing... And, when I finally move back down (closer to the salt, SW Florida hopefully), I will be that much better of an angler because I will learn different techniques that can be applied to what we do down here.

[Local66]

Exactly... U live too close to the salt to think about stinkin' LMB's too much!!!

And yet, without any effort at all I'm taking 9lb bass on flies. If that's all you've got then I understand why you target them, but I'm afraid that doesn't do anything to support your arguement. Bass are what they are, and just because you can't drive to salt everyday doesn't make bass any smarter or fight any harder.

[Bluefish in ny]

Local... We'll go back and forth all day long!!! If you are taking 9lb bass all the time, then you my friend, are one incredible angler, as in 10 years down here bassin... I got 2 over 9!!!! I need some lessons...

And here I am thinking I was a good angler

[Local66]

It's not about you. Lighten up.

[Bluefish in ny]

Its all about me!!!!

Again, this is a fishing debate, my favorite kind... Nothing to be "bitter" about...

[Sirsnookalot]

I'm in Locals camp
I've fished freshwater for 60 years and inshore salt for 30, being retired I fish 7 days a week, so I've caught a fish or 2.
I spend some time on a bass forum and the average bass fisherman has a totally different mind set. Everything is analyzed, from the most top of the line equipment ( polorized glasses for $700 and several pairs for different conditions) to weather to tackle to a multitude of different techniques and the list goes on and on. I fish basic as can be and do they catch more........nope! The older I get the less tackle I buy, I'm not about to buy a swimbait for 40 or 50 bucks then have them in 10 different colors. I fish bass a few months of the year as the saltwater bite is not too strong in my area of Palm Beach County, it's fun but imo it doesn't even come close to saltwater fishing. I remember saying to myself the day I caught my first jack..........why in the hell am I going bass fishing?

In defense of some of the bass anglers, if you're living in Kansas it's a bit tuff to get out to the ocean on a daily basis.

[Bluefish in ny]

I fish bass a few months of the year as the saltwater bite is not too strong in my area of Palm Beach County, it's fun but imo it doesn't even come close to saltwater fishing

Enuff said.... and "duh"

How many times must we go thru this.... Is there a dead horse beating smily here? Just checked, theres not. Look, first thing this AM I woke up to check the winds for tomorrow... Why? Not because I want to spend the day lakeside.. Because I am driving 1.5 hours North to wade a flat - again! (This will be almost every weekend for the past 3 months) Hmmm, trout and reds or bass and carp????.. . Guess what, come Monday, when I have an hour or two to fish, Im not driving 1.5 hours North, Im not going to toss lures in the suds just to get wet and maybe land a fish, just to have to rinse off all my gear, etc. I will drive .5 miles, get out of my car, catch 10 to 20 fish, get back in my car, no gear rinse required. But instead, I won't fish at all, because bass are retarded, and so are bass fisherman. :driving

P.S. I still respect all of u, as you as well as me enjoy "fishing"

[Local66]

Bluefish in NY, I promise you there's nothing to anything I've said that should be taken personally. I've never been very good at candy-coating, or pulling punches. My original statements were made about the bass tournament industry, and this was never about you.


-And I totally agree with Fishmonger, if that's what you've got than that's what you've got. Kansas would be a total bummer though. Just for arguement sake lets say Kentucky, at least they have big smallies and a handfull of musky.

[Sirsnookalot]

I don't care to drive an hour or 2 to fish, but I'm still catching my snook most mornings. Using 1 rod and 1 lure there isn't much to rinse, what else do you need?

[snakehead terror]

Exactly... U live too close to the salt to think about stinkin' LMB's too much!!!

And yet, without any effort at all I'm taking 9lb bass on flies. If that's all you've got then I understand why you target them, but I'm afraid that doesn't do anything to support your arguement. Bass are what they are, and just because you can't drive to salt everyday doesn't make bass any smarter or fight any harder.

you cant say that its not all about location though, in my canals where I can fish on weekdays 9lb bass are rare. just like in saltwater, there are places where they are very picky and there are places where they'll eat anything

[Local66]

Exactly... U live too close to the salt to think about stinkin' LMB's too much!!!

And yet, without any effort at all I'm taking 9lb bass on flies. If that's all you've got then I understand why you target them, but I'm afraid that doesn't do anything to support your arguement. Bass are what they are, and just because you can't drive to salt everyday doesn't make bass any smarter or fight any harder.

you cant say that its not all about location though, in my canals where I can fish on weekdays 9lb bass are rare. just like in saltwater, there are places where they are very picky and there are places where they'll eat anything

I'll agree with that, but at the same time you can also lighten your gear and change your tactics to help improve your chances. Being a good fisherman really isn't always about what you catch (in my opinion), it's more about being able to process the things you see when you're on the water, and changing your tactics to adapt. As much time as I spend on the water, I consider every day to be a learning experience.

[Bluefish in ny]

Man, what am I going to do when I move to NC?! I hope I can find some good "debaters" up there as well...

1.5 hours to catch 25" trout, and redfish? Not a bad gig!!! Snook, they are great, I get my fill in the summer... Heck, Jack and I last week, shhhhhh... dammit, I can't keep a secret.. Landed 12 snook. YES TWELVE between 22 and 26 inches, missed about 6 more... ICW in and around LW... Live shrimp, incoming tide, just around full moon.. 7 till 9:30 pm... but, shhhhhhhh. Sorry Jack, I had to let the cat out of the bag!

[Bluefish in ny]

P.S.... @ local.....No "offense" taken, again, fishing debates..... Why not stick with our guns what we are so passionate about?

Fishmonger, we've met a few times, ur a great fisherman, and I know u do well in the mornings... When I get the mornings to go when I retire, I hope to do as well...

P.S.S... I will provide more info to my "out of the bag" snook information... Winter spot, great during full moons, this last one was our best night (numbers), last trip there we got 8 in 2 hours, and we have also pulled redfish and blackdrum as well.... shhhhhhhhh

[Local66]

Bluefish, when haven't I stuck to my guns? I just wanted to make sure you're not getting worked up over something that really isn't an issue.

[Bluefish in ny]

Local... "ME" stick to my guns... I meant to say "why not stick to your guns"... as in me.. lol.. .its all good!!!

[Sirsnookalot]

What I would do in NC is go to the coast and do some striper fishing.

As far as me being a good fisherman, not any better than anyone else, I just spend a lot of time doing it and get an occasional result. I really do think the afternoon or evening fisherman catch more fish than me. I have only used live bait twice in my life for snook( this past summer) it was fun but not really my style.