Vero Beach shark fishing ban

[PhishingPhanatic]

http://www.tcoasttalk.com/2010/07/21/no ... h-beaches/

'No Shark Fishing’ signs to go up at Vero Beach beaches
July 21st, 2010 by TCPalm.com
By Ed Bierschenk

VERO BEACH — The city could begin installing “No Shark Fishing” signs at its guarded beaches within the next several days.

The City Council Tuesday directed city staff to install the signs at the city beaches. Although the signs will refer directly to shark fishing, there is actually no fishing allowed at any of the city-owned beaches.

While people can move away from the city-owned beaches and still fish within the city limits, the council Tuesday also gave preliminary approval to an ordinance that would ban blood-baiting or chumming within a half-mile of the shore inside the city limits.

The council is expected to take final action on that ordinance following a public hearing August 17. The ordinance would not prohibit regular hook-and-line fishing that takes place now within the city limits outside the city beaches.

The Indian River County Commission last week rejected a proposed ordinance prohibiting chumming and blood-baiting at beaches under county control.

Al Benkert, president of the Oceanside Business Association, was among those business people in favor of the ban, although some people said there was nothing wrong with fishing for sharks.

The impetus for a lot of the recent activity in the area was a statewide shark tournament that was originally scheduled to run from July 1 until August 9, but has since been delayed.

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The impetus for a lot of the recent activity in the area was a statewide shark tournament that was originally scheduled to run from July 1 until August 9, but has since been delayed.

They have won. Shark fishing of the beaches has come to an end.

[fixed80]

a ban on shark fishing huh. im in favor of banning swimming. you kno, lets ban every water activity there is. its all about the saftey of of the ppl. no swimming, surfing, snorkeling, boating allowed period.

then that will solve the shark attack problem forever. yeah, lets ruin it for everybody.
that's what these days are coming to anyway. no this, no that, no nothing.
we dont need to do anything or have fun.

well i guess making money is the only thing to do now and enjoy your establishments like house, and businesses.

[reelemin]

wont keep me off the beachs even thow i dont fish there but, maybe it will keep the googans who mistreat sharks off the beach..

[JunoChris]

It says lifeguarded beaches. There are some good beaches in Vero that dont have lifeguards. I dont think I fish a single beach in any county that has lifeguards.

[Team rebel]

The City Council Tuesday directed city staff to install the signs at the city beaches. Although the signs will refer directly to shark fishing, there is actually no fishing allowed at any of the city-owned beaches.
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That is illegal under state statutes, also a violation of your constitutional rights as are dictated by the state of Florida, you can win that battle any day.

Tuesday also gave preliminary approval to an ordinance that would ban blood-baiting or chumming within a half-mile of the shore inside the city limits.

This is SUPER illegal, no city can regulate what happens in you are in any body of water adjacent to the Florida coast-line, only the state of Florida can do that, this is a ssevere violation of rights and the state of Florida along with FWC will be getting some heat for this

[crashmister]

What is going to have to happen is some jerk"like me" is going to have to get arrested for Shark fishing so the law can be challenged on a constitutional level. God knows I've tried to get letter writing campagins going to no avail. People can type on a forum but not in a letter. The right to fish from shore is protected in the state constitution. Article X section 11.
SECTION 11. Sovereignty lands.--The title to lands under navigable waters, within the boundaries of the state, which have not been alienated, including beaches below mean high water lines, is held by the state, by virtue of its sovereignty, in trust for all the people. Sale of such lands may be authorized by law, but only when in the public interest. Private use of portions of such lands may be authorized by law, but only when not contrary to the public interest.

A quick interpretation, Unless the land is sold or given by the state to a group or entity for the purpose of like a power plant or water treatment plant. Or the Fed. Gov. for a Navel base or coast guard base or something that is for the good of the public, it belongs to us. No municipality owns the land from Mean High Tide "The 100 year high tide mark" Out into the ocean. Public intrest means all the public, not one group over another group.
The problem is unless "We the people" contact our Senator's and Congress people and tell them to inform these local governments that their ordances are illegal this will continue. In the end we will have no one to blame but our selves.

[fishnfool73]

What is going to have to happen is some jerk"like me" is going to have to get arrested for Shark fishing so the law can be challenged on a constitutional level. God knows I've tried to get letter writing campagins going to no avail. People can type on a forum but not in a letter. The right to fish from shore is protected in the state constitution. Article X section 11.
SECTION 11. Sovereignty lands.--The title to lands under navigable waters, within the boundaries of the state, which have not been alienated, including beaches below mean high water lines, is held by the state, by virtue of its sovereignty, in trust for all the people. Sale of such lands may be authorized by law, but only when in the public interest. Private use of portions of such lands may be authorized by law, but only when not contrary to the public interest.

A quick interpretation, Unless the land is sold or given by the state to a group or entity for the purpose of like a power plant or water treatment plant. Or the Fed. Gov. for a Navel base or coast guard base or something that is for the good of the public, it belongs to us. No municipality owns the land from Mean High Tide "The 100 year high tide mark" Out into the ocean. Public intrest means all the public, not one group over another group.
The problem is unless "We the people" contact our Senator's and Congress people and tell them to inform these local governments that their ordances are illegal this will continue. In the end we will have no one to blame but our selves.

You get arrested, a bit drastic of a move to get away from the impending new addition to your household don't you think.

[crashmister]

What is going to have to happen is some jerk"like me" is going to have to get arrested for Shark fishing so the law can be challenged on a constitutional level. God knows I've tried to get letter writing campagins going to no avail. People can type on a forum but not in a letter. The right to fish from shore is protected in the state constitution. Article X section 11.
SECTION 11. Sovereignty lands.--The title to lands under navigable waters, within the boundaries of the state, which have not been alienated, including beaches below mean high water lines, is held by the state, by virtue of its sovereignty, in trust for all the people. Sale of such lands may be authorized by law, but only when in the public interest. Private use of portions of such lands may be authorized by law, but only when not contrary to the public interest.

A quick interpretation, Unless the land is sold or given by the state to a group or entity for the purpose of like a power plant or water treatment plant. Or the Fed. Gov. for a Navel base or coast guard base or something that is for the good of the public, it belongs to us. No municipality owns the land from Mean High Tide "The 100 year high tide mark" Out into the ocean. Public intrest means all the public, not one group over another group.
The problem is unless "We the people" contact our Senator's and Congress people and tell them to inform these local governments that their ordances are illegal this will continue. In the end we will have no one to blame but our selves.

You get arrested, a bit drastic of a move to get away from the impending new addition to your household don't you think.

Yeah your right, I was actually speaking figuratively. Here is a recent ruling by the SSC. on the West coast

The court ruled against Stop the Beach Renourishment on several grounds:
•While accretion no longer benefits the private beach, erosion won’t affect private property until after it’s eaten away the public land.
•Beach restoration doesn’t deny the owners’ right to “access, use and view” the waterfront.
•Sand south of the mean high waterline has always been state property, and the state has a right to restore it.
•Being a waterfront owner doesn’t literally mean the edge of your property has to contact the edge of the Gulf.