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sounds awesome.Jakede46 wrote:I live in Georiga but I typically fish the northwest region. I make a two week trip to st george every year.
i would not be telling everyone on a public forum that you are snatch hooking due to the fact that it is illegal to do so in Georgia and FloridaJakede46 wrote: Ive had some luck snagging them with large trebel hooks.
think you might want to check in to that ... i know for a fact that snatch hooking any fish is illegal in the state of florida go ask any fwc officer , and in this day in age some may not have bag or creel limits on the but are most defiantly regulated by the state and federal lawsshmegger wrote:Snatch hooking a stingray is not illegal.
It is illegal to snatch hook certain regulated species, such as drum, flounder, and snook. However, stingrays are definitely not regulated in any way, neither size, bag, nor method.
In Tampa Bay there are plenty of places to catch rays. Anywhere there is a seawall on top of some flats, like Vinoy park, Clearwater marina, Coffee Pot road. Dunno about north FL areas though.
I did check on it before I posted it, because I wouldn't want to get anyone in trouble. Although it may be true that an FWC officer may tell you not to snag fish, they would be wrong. The law varies from state to state, but snatch hooking, or the use of treble hooks is legal for Florida saltwater rec. fishing, except for a few species. Southern stingrays and cow-nose rays are not specifically regulated or even stated in fishing regulations, and there is no problem with snagging them.diggin4grouper wrote: think you might want to check in to that ... i know for a fact that snatch hooking any fish is illegal in the state of florida go ask any fwc officer , and in this day in age some may not have bag or creel limits on the but are most defiantly regulated by the state and federal laws
just like the eagle rays are protected !!!!!!
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Stingray regulations.
Answer ID 2614 | Published 12/07/2009 09:40 AM | Updated 04/02/2011 10:32 AM
What are the regulations for catching stingrays?
There are certain stingrays which are protected. These include several rays in the family Mobulidae (Atlantic manta ray (Manta birostris), and the smaller devil ray (Mobula hypostoma), as well as the Spotted Eagle Ray (family myliobatidae, Aetobatus narinari). Spotted eagle rays also have a tail spine at the base of the tail. These rays may not be landed and must be released immediately alive and unharmed if caught, pursuant to Florida Administrative Code 68B-44.008.
No other skates or rays are currently prohibited from recreational harvest or have recreational bag limits associated with them. For species that are unregulated, or that do not have an established bag limit, more that 100 pounds or 2 fish per person per day (whichever is greater), is considered commercial quantities and will require a saltwater products license.
The regulation is species/weight specific for 100 pounds or 2 fish per person per day (whichever is greater). This would mean that if you are harvesting a fish that is generally small, for example bay anchovies, then you would be restricted to 100 pounds because that would be greater than 2 fish. However, if you are harvesting a fish that is generally very large, for example the ocean sunfish - in which 1 fish may weigh well over 100 pounds, you would be restricted to 2 fish because that is a greater amount of fish than 100 pounds. Generally, the "100 pounds" is used much more because within Florida's state waters an unregulated fish that large that is caught with the intent to be kept is unusual.
If you do not intend to eat the skate or ray, from a conservation standpoint I recommend that you release the organism alive back into the water at or near the capture site and not kill it or leave it stranded on the shore. They are part of the marine ecosystem and they have plenty of other predators (especially large sharks) to deal with without being needlessly killed because someone is afraid their bait will be stolen or the animal will be caught a second time.strizile wrote:Diggin
Cownose and such are fine. It even says in the article you posted about which family and so forth that other skates or rays are not prohibited from recreational harvesting. Ohter than that the 100lb rule applies.
He is fine. The exempt for trbles is clearly listed. Cownose for example is not in that list.
The link he posted is valid.
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Even a googan knows not to mess with spotted eagle rays. They are SPECIFICALLY regulated, unlike more common rays, which are only generally regulated under recreational daily bag limits.diggin4grouper wrote:here is part of it ill get the part about snatch hooking in a bit
http://myfwc.custhelp.com/app/answers/d ... 14/kw/rays
I don't know how common this is, but last year while down in Naples, there were juvie cow nosed rays (probably a foot or less wide wing span) by the hundreds cruising the surf within range to where a dip net could've workedfixed80 wrote:first of all, welcome to the forum. what area do you live? i never see them cruising the surf around the central east but i have heard on the west coast they do. i usually use the trouble hook like you do but suck at it. i think if they come real close and aren't as spooky then a big cast net is better. gigging the cownose rays are hard i bet cuz they are always moving unlike the bottom rays.
This was in JulyAlbacized wrote:I don't know how common this is, but last year while down in Naples, there were juvie cow nosed rays (probably a foot or less wide wing span) by the hundreds cruising the surf within range to where a dip net could've workedfixed80 wrote:first of all, welcome to the forum. what area do you live? i never see them cruising the surf around the central east but i have heard on the west coast they do. i usually use the trouble hook like you do but suck at it. i think if they come real close and aren't as spooky then a big cast net is better. gigging the cownose rays are hard i bet cuz they are always moving unlike the bottom rays.
)That refers to a natural bated treble hook. A weighted snatch hook is not the same I dont think. I know it's illegal to use any kind treble hook for shark's in conjunction with natural bait. Since FWC group's Shark's, Skates, and ray's together in the reg's, I can see how this can get confusing.shmegger wrote:I did check on it before I posted it, because I wouldn't want to get anyone in trouble. Although it may be true that an FWC officer may tell you not to snag fish, they would be wrong. The law varies from state to state, but snatch hooking, or the use of treble hooks is legal for Florida saltwater rec. fishing, except for a few species. Southern stingrays and cow-nose rays are not specifically regulated or even stated in fishing regulations, and there is no problem with snagging them.diggin4grouper wrote: think you might want to check in to that ... i know for a fact that snatch hooking any fish is illegal in the state of florida go ask any fwc officer , and in this day in age some may not have bag or creel limits on the but are most defiantly regulated by the state and federal laws
just like the eagle rays are protected !!!!!!
If there is some local reg or state bylaw that you found that contradicts this information, I need to see it in case I get in a scuffle with the FWC.
http://myfwc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2435/~/treble-hooks---is-it-legal-to-use-them%3F